Urbino Tactical Stock production status (was: July)

mitch · 2010-03-19 11:35:58

July is a firm date for when our tooling will be completed for the Urbino Tactical Stock

I'm very sorry that it's a lot later than we indicated before. On the other hand, it's a pretty firm date. No more hand-waving.

Edit: We are now looking at first part of November 2010 for the Benelli M4.

Last edited by mitch (2010-10-26 09:33:01)

KB · 2010-03-19 22:35:37

Do you have a cost estimate yet?

mitch · 2010-03-21 10:26:46

This is looking pretty solid:

Urbino Tactical Stocks for Remington 870, 1100 and 11-87

Part No Item    MSRP
90070 Urbino Tactical Stock (Standard Buttpad, Remington, 12-GA)    200.00
90080 Urbino Tactical Stock (Cheek Riser, Standard Buttpad, Remington, 12-GA)    265.00
91540 Urbino Tactical Stock (Limbsaver, Remington, 12-GA)    230.00
91550 Urbino Tactical Stock (Cheek Riser, Limbsaver, Remington, 12-GA)    295.00

Urbino Tactical Stocks for Benelli

Part No Item    MSRP
90050 Urbino Tactical Stock (Standard Buttpad, Benelli M1/M2, 12-GA)    215.00
90060 Urbino Tactical Stock (Cheek Riser, Standard Buttpad, Benelli M1/M2, 12-GA)    280.00
91500 Urbino Tactical Stock (Limbsaver, Benelli M1/M2, 12-GA)    245.00
91510 Urbino Tactical Stock (Cheek Riser, Limbsaver, Benelli M1/M2, 12-GA)    310.00

Urbino Tactical stocks for the Benelli M4 are available in tactical black or coyote color.

90030 Urbino Tactical Stock (Standard Buttpad, Black, Benelli M4, 12-GA)    215.00
90040 Urbino Tactical Stock (Cheek Riser, Standard Buttpad, Black, Benelli M4, 12-GA)    280.00
91460 Urbino Tactical Stock (Limbsaver, Black, Benelli M4, 12-GA)    245.00
91470 Urbino Tactical Stock (Cheek Riser, Limbsaver, Black, Benelli M4, 12-GA)    310.00

90090 Urbino Tactical Stock (Standard Buttpad, Coyote, Benelli M4, 12-GA)    225.00
90100 Urbino Tactical Stock (Cheek Riser, Standard Buttpad, Coyote, Benelli M4, 12-GA)    290.00
91580 Urbino Tactical Stock (Limbsaver, Coyote, Benelli M4, 12-GA)    255.00
91590 Urbino Tactical Stock (Cheek Riser, Limbsaver, Coyote, Benelli M4, 12-GA)    320.00

Urbino Tactical stocks can be enhanced with the following modular buttpads.

90520 Standard Buttpad for Urbino Tactical Stock    35.00
90530 Limbsaver Buttpad for Urbino Tactical Stock    65.00

Edit: prices have been aggressively reduced. See this price list for revised MSRP: http://www.mesatactical.com/index.php?s … load&id=54

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KB · 2010-03-21 19:04:24

Thank you!

dhawkins · 2010-03-23 06:45:35

Cool - looking forward to this.

KB · 2010-04-01 22:48:03

Anything???.............................Bueller?

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M3Rocker · 2010-05-05 12:46:16

Hey Mitch do you know for sure that the M1/M2 Urbino will work on the M3? I'll be buying one and don't want drop $245 on something so sweet and then not have it work ya know!!! That would just be a bummer. Have you done any testing with the M3????

mitch · 2010-05-06 06:20:04

We don't have an M3, so probably won't be doing any testing. We can't say for sure whether it will work on the M3, but the first person who tries it will tell us whether it works.

SinistralRifleman · 2010-05-17 16:33:36

mitch wrote:

We don't have an M3, so probably won't be doing any testing. We can't say for sure whether it will work on the M3, but the first person who tries it will tell us whether it works.

The stocks are the same for the M1 and M3, both Benelli and Speedfeed stocks for the M1 work with the M3. The Speedfeed stock for the Benelli is basically an 870 stock with a adapter plate between it and the receiver, it doesn't look very clean but until now it was the only shorter LOP stock available. I'm looking forward to trying the Urbino stock on my M3.

M3Rocker · 2010-05-19 10:34:51

SinistralRifleman wrote:

mitch wrote:
We don't have an M3, so probably won't be doing any testing. We can't say for sure whether it will work on the M3, but the first person who tries it will tell us whether it works.
The stocks are the same for the M1 and M3, both Benelli and Speedfeed stocks for the M1 work with the M3. The Speedfeed stock for the Benelli is basically an 870 stock with a adapter plate between it and the receiver, it doesn't look very clean but until now it was the only shorter LOP stock available. I'm looking forward to trying the Urbino stock on my M3.

Sinistral

Thanks for the info!

salsantini · 2010-06-21 08:49:43

Still on schedule for July for the Benelli M4 stock?

mitch · 2010-06-21 09:20:45

Looks like it.

Some of these parts are getting ready to be sent out for some outside processes.

The others are in various stages of progress. Steel is out being hardened, and other outside processes. Mold bases being worked on. A couple of things that we thought we could machine are having to be EDM burned.

We are looking like getting things close to completed here the end of the month or 1st week in July, for the first run, anyway. We expect to have to fiddle around with the parts a little after that.

Here's a pic of the tooling of the main armature (for PROOF!):

salsantini · 2010-07-02 06:13:40

Mitch, Do you estimate the Beneiil M4 stock will be available to purchase the middle of this month or closer to the end of July? Can't wait to get this on my shotgun!

StrangerDanger · 2010-07-03 21:40:44

Got my loaded coyote one?

mitch · 2010-07-09 08:23:46

Guys, it's looking like toward the end of July. Here's a paraphrase of the sob story I received this week from the toolmakers:

The biggest mold, for what we call the stock armature, was damaged at some point and they are right now making a new one. Their troubles were compounded by one of the chief moldmakers being out sick for a week.

Next week I am supposed to get my hands on first articles of the buttplate, buttpad and cheek riser. We will test the butt pieces for fit, but final testing for fit can't be completed until we get a first article of the stock armature, and right now they can't tell me when I will see that.

After we verify all the parts for fit, they will go out to the texture house for a few days. Then we will be done.

They are pretty confident all this will happen in July. I will know more next week and will post photos of our progress.

mitch · 2010-07-14 08:22:09

The problem was that when they heat treated one of the molds it shrank or expanded or whatever, basically ruining the mold, so they had to make a new one. I will be able to see first articles on 20 July. After we approve the fitting, etc, the molds have to go out for texturing.

If it happens this month, it will be at the very end of the month.

Thanks for hanging in there, guys. You can't imagine how big a project this has been for us.

hookster · 2010-07-19 18:13:12

we patiently await perfection.....
:-)

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mitch · 2010-07-20 15:55:53

Well, perfection takes time. Thanks for your patience.

We were at the toolmakers' today to see first articles, but they didn't have anything for us yet. They showed us where they are with the tooling, however.

The first part that will come out of the presses is the cheekpiece. But that isn't very useful for test fitting without the armature (the main stock). The armature is what has been causing them the most problems, and by any measure it's a challenging tool. There are two separate inserts for each of the shotgun platforms we are supporting, plus inserts for the rails that support the cheekpiece. The armature tooling looks like this:

The main armature inserts are at the lower right. They have just been burned out with the EDM cores you can see at left (they look like stocks). They have to make multiple EDM passes with each cavity. Behind, at left, is part of the mold base. The entire assembly weights 1,200 to 1,500 lbs.

They are about two or three weeks away from a first article with this mold.

This is very labor intensive work and is why most of our plastics manufacturing has gone to Asia, where such work can cost a quarter or a fifth of what it costs here in the US.

This is a photo of the tooling for the urethane rubber parts, the grip sleeve and the buttpad:

Again, there is a lot more work to do with this mold, but it's not as complicated as the bigger molds. The small rods are triangular cores for the cushioning cavities we are molding into the buttpad.

So basically it's looking like the middle of August. Sorry, guys.

I will try to keep you updated as I learn more myself.

benb · 2010-07-21 09:30:09

Thanks for sticking with this project.

My M4 is ready for a #91470 Urbino Tactical Stock (Cheek Riser,
Limbsaver, Black, Benelli M4, 12-GA) whenever you are. :rockon:

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fleagle · 2010-07-24 16:09:37

Agreed! Thanks for not giving up!

I am ready to order the same configuration for my M4 as benb: #91470 Urbino Tactical Stock (Cheek Riser, Limbsaver, Black, Benelli M4, 12-GA).

Keep us updated!

mitch · 2010-07-26 16:04:10

We accepted our first order for an Urbino stock this morning. After all, they are already in the catalog.

dhawkins · 2010-07-27 07:37:30

I just placed and order - can't wait!

salsantini · 2010-07-27 13:12:41

mitch wrote:

We accepted our first order for an Urbino stock this morning. After all, they are already in the catalog.

So, which Dealer place the first order? Are you filling orders from Dealers first or can we order a stock direct?

mitch · 2010-07-27 13:21:45

Anyone can order.

Tactical73 · 2010-07-30 07:22:06

wow place the order immediately for my shop ;-)

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